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Tab · Oct 27, 2007, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen

if you spam mind blast into diversion its your own fault.

My point is that even the worst mesmer in Guild Wars could time Diversion to hit Mind Blast. If you don't spam it, it's a wasted elite slot.

jaeharys targaryen · Oct 27, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

My point is that even the worst mesmer in Guild Wars could time Diversion to hit Mind Blast. If you don't spam it, it's a wasted elite slot.

i realized thats what you meant when i went to bed yesterday. its a good point, but when it comes down to it i have yet to ever see a e/me mind blasting in pvp. so is this your opinion your peddling as accepted fact, here?

not that i observe much.

Tab · Oct 27, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

It's the only Mind Blast bar that sees play tbh.

jaeharys targaryen · Oct 27, 2007, 02:06 PM // 14:06

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

It's the only Mind Blast bar that sees play tbh.

o rly?
i shall go forth and watch.
but i found/tweaked this for TA. mesmers are a non entity.

Tab · Oct 27, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Actually, I quite regularly go against 2 thumpers and a dom mes in TA.

jaeharys targaryen · Oct 27, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

Actually, I quite regularly go against 2 thumpers and a dom mes in TA.

as compared to how many other teams though?
i havent TAed in a while, to be sure.

Silph · Oct 27, 2007, 11:48 PM // 23:48

heres what i run for mind blasting.

Fire attune, Glyph of ele power, Mind Blast, MS, rodgorts invo, intensity, Energy blast

of course, MS and intensity would need replacing for PVP combat. mabie take the 2 above suggested monk skills.

for sure tho Energy blasts 130 armor ignoring damage pwns.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 02, 2007, 04:52 AM // 04:52

I wonder if mind blast on a mes would work? Probolly not well.

Yichi · Nov 02, 2007, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

I wonder if mind blast on a mes would work? Probolly not well.

if you used it on a warrior possibly....

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 02, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Figured as much hmm, still who knows I will fiddle with it

that ends my semi off topic idea/

Lourens · Nov 02, 2007, 06:48 AM // 06:48

[skill]distracting shot[/skill] can easely shut down a mind blast using ele

tmakinen · Nov 02, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Spammy builds like the Mind Blast one in PvP are just begging for a Diversion (and any mesmer worth his/her salt will be able to time it so that it lands in mid-cast) or a Signet of Humility if there doesn't happen to be any better targets for SoH nearby. Flash is good but Rodgort's? Maybe in AB ...

Somehow, I've always thought that Immolate is the perfect match for Mind Blast if you want a high DPS two button combo.

jaeharys targaryen · Nov 02, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31

this discussion went to shit

sayign distracting shot shuts it down begs the question of why its being used so much

Stormlord Alex · Nov 02, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen

this discussion went to shit

sayign distracting shot shuts it down begs the question of why its being used so much

You can ignore Lourens, he's never touched Mind Blast so his comments are meaningless.

Anyho, Diversion gets laughed at...
That /Me secondary is finally useful.
And... all this talk about counters is moot, tbh, any build can be countered - this is especially true of eles, who are prone to interrupts and enchantment strips moreso than other classes.

and tmak - Rodgort's belongs on a Mind Blaster, even in PvP it's fairly quite easy to hit at least 2 people in just about every format. And eating an Invocation without Prot Spirit really, really hurts. Definately worth a slot.
You can bring Immolate if you want too... bleh

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 02, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Rodgorts is awsome in RA and TA. Mind blast is a good way to put it up without losing step on pressure.

jaeharys targaryen · Nov 02, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

Rodgorts is awsome in RA and TA. Mind blast is a good way to put it up without losing step on pressure.

well said

i think it would be also be good in a GvG setting, i can kinda see it:
e/rt
rodgort's, splinter, ancestor's
splinters a warrior
gogo warded casters getting incinerated?

Lourens · Nov 02, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

You can ignore Lourens, he's never touched Mind Blast so his comments are meaningless.

excuse me?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 02, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

lol.

Jarharys what is the point of that second idea? I don't GvG much but would that be one ele or more of a team doing that?

jaeharys targaryen · Nov 02, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by Lourens

excuse me?

you ae acting like each of us didnt individually own you ona separate thread?

smrandom · Nov 02, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

IMO, the synergy in this build isn't very good. Mind Blast is a pressure skill, which is meant to be used constantly to overpower the other team's healing ability. Rodgort's is a spike skill, meant to be combined with other big packet damage to kill a target in a single coordinated shot. Searing Heat is used to punish poor positioning or flush people from certain areas, but it's cast, cost and recharge make it a poor skirmish skill. You've essentially wasted two slots on energy management with both Mind Blast and Fire Attunement and reached into a 4th attribute for utility. That's not against the rules, it just probably isn't as efficient as a bar that only needs to spec in two or three attirbutes.

In any 8 man format, if this is the only build of the kind in the team, it will probably get wrecked by a mesmer and ranger. Diversion is half of the problem, although readily managable with proper planning (i.e., bring your own Dshot/PLeak). The other problem is that the long cast times of Rodgort's and Searing Heat makes you a prime candidate for interruptions, especially Power Leak, Power Drain and DShot. If you can't get those off, you can't really do much damage.

Maybe this does own in TA and RA, but I hesitate to use that as evidence of the quality of the build. You may still see RI and SH in HA, but the elite of choice in those builds is typically Savannah Heat and there is usually at least one or two other eles in the build (usually another SH Ele and a Shatterstone Ele). You would most likely never see this in any experienced GvG team.